Exclusive: Russian geo-economics Tzar Sergey Glazyev introduces the new global financial system
The world’s new monetary system, underpinned by a
digital currency, will be backed by a basket of new foreign currencies and
natural resources. And it will liberate the Global South from both western debt
and IMF-induced austerity.
By Pepe Escobar, posted with the author’s
permission and cross-posted at The Cradle.
April 15,
2022
Sergey Glazyev is a man living right in the eye of our
current geopolitical and geoeconomic hurricane. One of the most influential
economists in the world, a member of the Russian Academy of Sciences, and a
former adviser to the Kremlin from 2012 to 2019, for the past three years he has
helmed Moscow’s uber strategic portfolio as Minister in Charge of Integration
and Macroeconomics of the Eurasia Economic Union
(EAEU).
Glazyev’s recent intellectual production has been
nothing short of transformative, epitomized by his essay Sanctions and Sovereignty and
an extensive discussion of the new, emerging geo-economic paradigm in an interview with a Russian business
magazine.
In another of his recent essays,
Glazyev comments on how “I grew up in Zaporizhzhia, near which heavy
fighting is now taking place in order to destroy the Ukrainian Nazis, who never
existed in my small Motherland. I studied at a Ukrainian school and I know Ukrainian
literature and language well, which from a scientific point of view is a
dialect of Russian. I did not notice anything Russophobic in Ukrainian culture.
In the 17 years of my life in Zaporizhzhia, I have never met a single Banderist.”
Glazyev was gracious to take some time from his packed
schedule to provide detailed answers to the first series of questions in what we
expect to become a running conversation, especially focused on the Global
South. This is his first interview with a foreign publication since the start
of Operation Z. Many thanks to Alexey Subottin for the Russian-English
translation.
The Cradle: You are
at the forefront of a game-changing geo-economic development: the design of a
new monetary/financial system via an association between the EAEU and China,
bypassing the US dollar, with a draft soon to be concluded. Could you possibly
advance some of the features of this system – which is certainly not a Bretton
Woods III – but seems to be a clear alternative to the Washington consensus and
very close to the necessities of the Global South?
Glazyev: In a
bout of Russophobic hysteria, the ruling elite of the United States played its
last “trump ace” in the hybrid war against Russia. Having “frozen” Russian
foreign exchange reserves in custody accounts of western central banks,
financial regulators of the US, EU, and the UK undermined the status of the
dollar, euro, and pound as global reserve currencies. This step sharply
accelerated the ongoing dismantling of the dollar-based economic world order.
Over a decade ago, my colleagues at the Astana
Economic Forum and I proposed to transition to a new global economic system
based on a new synthetic trading currency based on an index of currencies of
participating countries. Later, we proposed to expand the underlying currency
basket by adding around twenty exchange-traded commodities. A monetary unit
based on such an expanded basket was mathematically modeled and demonstrated a
high degree of resilience and stability.
At around the same time, we proposed to create a wide
international coalition of resistance in the hybrid war for global dominance
that the financial and power elite of the US unleashed on the countries that
remained outside of its control. My book The Last World War: the USA to
Move and Lose, published in 2016, scientifically explained the nature of
this coming war and argued for its inevitability – a conclusion based on
objective laws of long-term economic development. Based on the same objective
laws, the book argued the inevitability of the defeat of the old dominant
power.
Currently, the US is fighting to maintain its
dominance, but just as Britain previously, which provoked two world wars but
was unable to keep its empire and its central position in the world due to the
obsolescence of its colonial economic system, it is destined to fail. The British
colonial economic system based on slave labor was overtaken by structurally
more efficient economic systems of the US and the USSR. Both the US and the
USSR were more efficient at managing human capital in vertically integrated
systems, which split the world into their zones of influence. A transition to a
new world economic order started after the disintegration of the USSR. This
transition is now reaching its conclusion with the imminent disintegration of
the dollar-based global economic system, which provided the foundation of the
United States' global dominance.
The new convergent economic system that emerged in the
PRC (People’s Republic of China) and India is the next inevitable stage of
development, combining the benefits of both centralized strategic planning and
market economy, and of both state control of the monetary and physical
infrastructure and entrepreneurship. The new economic system united various
strata of their societies around the goal of increasing common well-being in a
way that is substantially stronger than the Anglo-Saxon and European
alternatives. This is the main reason why Washington will not be able to win
the global hybrid war that it started. This is also the main reason why the
current dollar-centric global financial system will be superseded by a new one,
based on a consensus of the countries who join the new world economic order.
In the first phase of the transition, these countries
fall back on using their national currencies and clearing mechanisms, backed by
bilateral currency swaps. At this point, price formation is still mostly driven
by prices at various exchanges, denominated in dollars. This phase is almost
over: after Russia’s reserves in dollars, euro, pound, and yen were “frozen,”
it is unlikely that any sovereign country will continue accumulating reserves
in these currencies. Their immediate replacement is national currencies and
gold.
The second stage of the transition will involve new
pricing mechanisms that do not reference the dollar. Price formation in national
currencies involves substantial overheads, however, it will still be more
attractive than pricing in ‘un-anchored’ and treacherous currencies like
dollars, pounds, euro, and yen. The only remaining global currency candidate –
the yuan – won’t be taking its place due to its inconvertibility and the
restricted external access to the Chinese capital markets. The use of gold as
the price reference is constrained by the inconvenience of its use for
payments.
The third and final stage of the new economic
order transition will involve the creation of a new digital payment currency
founded through an international agreement based on principles of transparency,
fairness, goodwill, and efficiency. I expect that the model of such a monetary
unit that we developed will play its role at this stage. A currency like this
can be issued by a pool of currency reserves of BRICS countries, which all
interested countries will be able to join. The weight of each currency in the
basket could be proportional to the GDP of each country (based on purchasing
power parity, for example), its share in international trade, as well as the
population and territory size of participating countries.
In addition, the basket could contain an index of
prices of main exchange-traded commodities: gold and other precious metals, key
industrial metals, hydrocarbons, grains, sugar, as well as water, and other
natural resources. To provide backing and to make the currency more resilient,
relevant international resource reserves can be created in due course. This new
currency would be used exclusively for cross-border payments and issued to the
participating countries based on a pre-defined formula. Participating countries
would instead use their national currencies for credit creation, in order to
finance national investments and industry, as well as for sovereign wealth
reserves. Capital account cross-border flows would remain governed by national
currency regulations.
The Cradle: Michael
Hudson specifically asks that if this new system enables nations in the Global
South to suspend dollarized debt and is based on the ability to pay (in foreign
exchange), can these loans be tied to either raw materials or, for China,
tangible equity ownership in the capital infrastructure financed by foreign
non-dollar credit?
Glazyev: Transition
to the new world economic order will likely be accompanied by systematic
refusal to honor obligations in dollars, euro, pound, and yen. In this respect,
it will be no different from the example set by the countries issuing these
currencies who thought it appropriate to steal foreign exchange reserves of
Iraq, Iran, Venezuela, Afghanistan, and Russia to the tune of trillions of
dollars. Since the US, Britain, EU, and Japan refused to honor their
obligations and confiscated the wealth of other nations which was held in their
currencies, why should other countries be obliged to pay them back and service their loans?
In any case, participation in the new economic system
will not be constrained by the obligations in the old one. Countries of the
Global South can be full participants of the new system regardless of their
accumulated debts in dollars, euro, pound, and yen. Even if they were to
default on their obligations in those currencies, this would have no bearing on
their credit rating in the new financial system. The nationalization of the extraction
industry, likewise, would not cause a disruption. Further, should these
countries reserve a portion of their natural resources for the backing of the
new economic system, their respective weight in the currency basket of the new
monetary unit would increase accordingly, providing that nation with larger
currency reserves and credit capacity. In addition, bilateral swap lines with
trading partner countries would provide them with adequate financing for
co-investments and trade financing.
The Cradle: In
one of your latest essays, The Economics of the Russian Victory,
you call for “an accelerated formation of a new technological paradigm and the
formation of institutions of a new world economic order.” Among the
recommendations, you specifically propose the creation of “a payment and
settlement system in the national currencies of the EAEU member states” and the
development and implementation of “an independent system of international
settlements in the EAEU, SCO, and BRICS, which could eliminate critical
dependence of the US-controlled SWIFT system.” Is it possible to foresee a
concerted joint drive by the EAEU and China to “sell” the new system to SCO
members, other BRICS members, ASEAN members, and nations in West Asia, Africa, and Latin America? And will that result in a bipolar geo-economy – the West
versus The Rest?
Glazyev: Indeed,
this is the direction where we are headed. Disappointingly, the monetary
authorities of Russia are still a part of the Washington paradigm and play by
the rules of the dollar-based system, even after Russian foreign exchange
reserves were captured by the west. On the other hand, the recent sanctions
prompted extensive soul searching among the rest of the non-dollar-block
countries. western ‘agents of influence’ still control central banks of most
countries, forcing them to apply suicidal policies prescribed by the IMF.
However, such policies at this point are so obviously contrary to the national
interests of these non-western countries that their authorities are growing
justifiably concerned about financial security.
You correctly highlight the potentially central roles of
China and Russia in the genesis of the new world economic order. Unfortunately, the current leadership of the CBR (Central Bank of Russia) remains trapped inside
the intellectual cul-de-sac of the Washington paradigm and is unable to become
a founding partner in the creation of a new global economic and financial
framework. At the same time, the CBR already had to face the reality and create
a national system for interbank messaging which is not dependent on SWIFT and
opened it up for foreign banks as well. Cross-currency swap lines have been
already set up with key participating nations. Most transactions between member
states of the EAEU are already denominated in national currencies and the share
of their currencies in internal trade is growing at a rapid pace.
A similar transition is taking place in trade with
China, Iran, and Turkey. India indicated that it is ready to switch to payments
in national currencies as well. A lot of effort is put into developing clearing
mechanisms for national currency payments. In parallel, there is an ongoing
effort to develop a digital non-banking payment system, which would be linked
to gold and other exchange-traded commodities – the ‘stablecoins.’
The recent US and European sanctions imposed on the
banking channels have caused a rapid increase in these efforts. The group of
countries working on the new financial system only needs to announce the
completion of the framework and readiness of the new trade currency and the
process of formation of the new world financial order will accelerate further
from there. The best way to bring it about would be to announce it at the SCO
or BRICS regular meetings. We are working on that.
The Cradle: This has been
an absolutely key issue in discussions by independent analysts across the west.
Was the Russian Central Bank advising Russian gold producers to sell their gold
in the London market to get a higher price than the Russian government or
Central Bank would pay? Was there no anticipation whatsoever that the coming
alternative to the US dollar will have to be based largely on gold? How would
you characterize what happened? How much practical damage has this inflicted on
the Russian economy short-term and mid-term?
Glazyev: The
monetary policy of the CBR, implemented in line with the IMF recommendations,
has been devastating for the Russian economy. Combined disasters of the
“freezing” of circa $400 billion of foreign exchange reserves and over a
trillion dollars siphoned from the economy by oligarchs into western offshore
destinations, came with the backdrop of equally disastrous policies of the CBR,
which included excessively high real rates combined with a managed float of the
exchange rate. We estimate this caused under-investment of circa 20 trillion
rubles and under-production of circa 50 trillion rubles in goods.
Following Washington’s recommendations, the CBR
stopped buying gold over the last two years, effectively forcing domestic gold
miners to export full volumes of production, which added up to 500 tons of
gold. These days the mistake and the harm it caused are very much obvious.
Presently, the CBR resumed gold purchases, and, hopefully, will continue with
sound policies in the interest of the national economy instead of ‘targeting
inflation’ for the benefit of international speculators, as had been the case
during the last decade.
The Cradle: The Fed as
well as the ECB were not consulted on the freeze of Russian foreign reserves.
Word in New York and Frankfurt is that they would have opposed it were they to
have been asked. Did you personally expect the freeze? And did the Russian
leadership expect it?
Glazyev: My
book, The Last World War, which I already mentioned, which was
published as far back as 2015, argued that the likelihood of this happening
eventually is very high. In this hybrid war, economic warfare and
informational/cognitive warfare are key theaters of conflict. On both of these
fronts, the US and NATO countries have overwhelming superiority and I did not
have any doubt that they would take full advantage of this in due course.
I have been arguing for a long time for the
replacement of dollars, euros, pounds, and yen in our foreign exchange reserves
with gold, which is produced in abundance in Russia. Unfortunately, western
agents of influence which occupy key roles at central banks of most countries,
as well as rating agencies and key publications, were successful in silencing
my ideas. To give you an example, I have no doubt that high-ranking officials
at the Fed and the ECB were involved in developing anti-Russian financial
sanctions. These sanctions have been consistently escalating and are being
implemented almost instantly, despite the well-known difficulties with
bureaucratic decision-making in the EU.
The Cradle: Elvira Nabiullina
has been reconfirmed as the head of the Russian Central Bank. What would you do
differently, compared to her previous actions? What is the main guiding
principle involved in your different approaches?
Glazyev: The
difference between our approaches is very simple. Her policies are an orthodox
implementation of IMF recommendations and dogmas of the Washington paradigm,
while my recommendations are based on the scientific method and empirical
evidence accumulated over the last hundred years in leading countries.
The Cradle: The
Russia-China strategic partnership seems to be increasingly ironclad – as
Presidents Putin and Xi themselves constantly reaffirm. But there are rumbles
against it not only in the west but also in some Russian policy circles. In
this extremely delicate historical juncture, how reliable is China as an
all-season ally to Russia?
Glazyev: The
foundation of the Russian-Chinese strategic partnership is common sense, common
interests, and the experience of cooperation over hundreds of years. The US
ruling elite started a global hybrid war aimed at defending its hegemonic
position in the world, targeting China as the key economic competitor and
Russia as the key counter-balancing force. Initially, the US geopolitical
efforts were aimed to create a conflict between Russia and China. Agents of
western influence were amplifying xenophobic ideas in our media and blocking
any attempts to transition to payments in national currencies. On the Chinese
side, agents of western influence were pushing the government to fall in line
with the demands of the US interests.
However, the sovereign interests of Russia and China
logically led to their growing strategic partnership and cooperation, in order
to address common threats emanating from Washington. The US tariff war with
China and financial sanctions war with Russia validated these concerns and
demonstrated the clear and present danger our two countries are facing. Common
interests of survival and resistance are uniting China and Russia, and our two
countries are largely symbiotic economically. They complement and increase the competitive advantages of each other. These common interests will persist over
the long run.
The Chinese government and the Chinese people remember
very well the role of the Soviet Union in the liberation of their country from
the Japanese occupation and in the post-war industrialization of China. Our two
countries have a strong historical foundation for strategic partnership and we
are destined to cooperate closely in our common interests. I hope that the
strategic partnership of Russia and the PRC, which is enhanced by the coupling
of the One Belt One Road with the Eurasian Economic Union, will become the
foundation of President Vladimir Putin’s project of the Greater Eurasian
Partnership and the nucleus of the new world economic order.
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