Hitler
& The Mufti - The Official Transcript (November 28, 1941)
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The following is the official record of the conversation between
Adolf Hitler and Haj Amin al-Husseini in Berlin. You may note that while the
Leader of National Socialist Germany seems to be committed to the battle
against world Jewry, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem is only concerned with
Arab and Palestinian's interests as one would expect him to be. In the
entire text there is not a single reference to 'Jew burning' as Israeli PM
Benjamin Netanyahu suggested yesterday.
The Grand Mufti began
by thanking the Fuhrer for the great honor he had bestowed by receiving him. He
wished to seize the opportunity to convey to the Fuhrer of the Greater German Reich,
admired by the entireArab world,
his thanks for the sympathy which he had always shown for the Arab and
especially the Palestinian cause, and to which he had given clear espressos in
his public speeches. The Arab countries were firmly convinced that Germany would
win the war and that the Arab cause would then prosper: The Arabs were
Germany's natural friends because they had the same enemies as had Germany,
namely the English,
the Jews,
and the Communists. They were therefore prepared to cooperate with Germany with
all their hearts and stood ready to participate in the war, not only negatively
by the commission of acts of sabotage and the instigation of revolutions, but
also positively by the formation of an Arab Legion. The Arabs could he more
useful to Germany as allies than might he apparent at first glance, both for
geographical reasons and because of the suffering inflicted upon them by the
English and the Jews. Furthermore, they had had close relations with all Moslem nations,
of which they could make use in behalf of the common cause. The Arab Legion
would he quite easy to raise. An appeal by the Mufti to the Arab countries and
the prisoners of Arab, Algerian,Tunisian,
andMoroccan nationality
in Germany would produce a great number of volunteers eager to fight. Of
Germany's victory the Arab world was firmly convinced, not only because the
Reich possessed a large army, brave soldiers, and military leaders of genius,
but also because the Almighty could never award the victory to an unjust cause.
In this struggle, the Arabs
were striving for the independence and unity of Palestine, Syria and Iraq.
They had the fullest confidence in the Fuhrer and looked to his hand for the
balm on their wounds which had been inflicted upon them by the enemies of
Germany.
The Mufti then mentioned the
letter he had received from Germany, which stated that Germany was holding no
Arab territories and understood and recognized the aspirations to independence
and freedom of the Arabs, just as she supported the elimination of the Jewish
national home.
A public declaration in this
sense would be very useful for its propagandistic effect on the Arab peoples at
this moment. It would rouse the Arabs from their momentary lethargy and give
them new courage. It would also ease the Mufti's work of secretly organizing
the Arabs against the moment when they could strike. At the same time, he could
give the assurance that the Arabs would in strict discipline patiently wait for
the right moment and only strike upon an order from Berlin.
With regard to the events in
Iraq, the Mufti observed that the Arabs in that country certainly had by no
means been incited by Germany to attack England, but solely had acted in
reaction to a direct English assault upon their honor.
The Turks,
he believed, would welcome the establishment of' an Arab government in the
neighboring territories because they would prefer weaker Arab to strong
European governments in the neighboring countries, and, being themselves a
nation of 7 million, they had moreover nothing to fear from the 1.700,000 Arabs
inhabiting Syria. Transjordan, Iraq. and Palestine.
France likewise
would have no objections to the unification plan because she had conceded
independence to Syria as early as 1936 and had given her approval to the
unification of Iraq and Syria under King Faisal as early as 1933.
In these circumstances he was
renewing his request that the Fuhrer make a public declaration so that the
Arabs would not lose hope, which is so powerful a force in the life of nations.
With such hope in their hearts the Arabs, as lie had said, were willing to
wait. They were not pressing for immediate realization of their aspirations:
they could easily wait half a year or a whole year. But if they were not
inspired with such a hope by a declaration of this sort, it could be expected
that the English would be the gainers from it.
The Fuhrer replied that
Germany's fundamental attitude on these questions, as the Mufti himself had
already stated. was clear. Germany stood for uncompromising war against the
Jews. That naturally included active opposition to the Jewish national home in
Palestine. which was nothing other than a center, in the form of a state, for
the exercise of destructive influence by Jewish interests. Germany was also
aware that the assertion that the Jews were carrying out the function of
economic pioneers in Palestine was a lie. The work there was done only by the
Arabs, not by the Jews. Germany was resolved, step by step, to ask one European
nation after the other to solve its Jewish problem, and at the proper time
direct a similar appeal to non-European nations as well.
Germany was at the present
time engaged in a life and death struggle with two citadels of Jewish power:
Great Britain and Soviet Russia.
Theoretically there was a difference between England's capitalism and Soviet
Russia's communism: actually, however, the Jews in both countries were pursuing
a common goal. This was the decisive struggle: on the political plane, it
presented itself in the main as a conflict between Germany and England, but
ideologically it was a battle between National Socialism and the Jews. It went
without saying that Germany would furnish positive and practical aid to the
Arabs involved in the same struggle, because platonic promises were useless in
a war for survival or destruction in which the Jews were able to mobilize all
of England's power for their ends.
The aid to the Arabs would
have to be material aid. Of how little help sympathies alone were in such a
battle had been demonstrated plainly by the operation in Iraq, where
circumstances had not permitted the rendering of really effective, practical
aid. In spite of all the sympathies. German aid had not been sufficient and
Iraq was overcome by the power of Britain, that is, the guardian of the Jews.
The Mufti could not but he
aware, however. that the outcome of the struggle going on at present would also
decide the fate of the Arab world. The Fuhrer therefore had to think and speak
coolly and deliberately, as a rational man and primarily as a soldier, as the
leader of the German and allied armies. Everything of a nature to help in this
titanic battle for the common cause, and thus also for the Arabs. would have to
he done. Anything, however, that might contribute to weakening the military
situation must be put aside, no matter hose unpopular this move might be.
Germany was now engaged in a
very severe battles to force the gateway to the northern Caucasus region. The
difficulties were mainly with regard to maintaining the supply. Which was most
difficult as a result of the destruction of railroads and highways as well as
of the oncoming winter. If at such a moment, the Fuhrer were to raise the
problem of Syria in a declaration, those elements in France which were under de
Gaulle's influence would receive new strength. They would interpret the
Fuhrer's declaration as an intention to break up France's colonial empire and
appeal to their fellow countrymen that they should rather make common cause
with the English to try to save what still could be saved. A German declaration
regarding Syria would in France he understood to refer to the French colonies
in general, and that would at the present time create new troubles in western
Europe, which means that a portion of the German armed forces would be
immobilized in the west and no longer he available for the campaign in the
east.
The Fuhrer then made the
following statement to the Mufti. enjoining him to lock it in the uttermost
depths of his heart:
1. He (the Fuhrer) would carry
on the battle to the total destruction of the Judeo-Communist empire in Europe.
2. At some moment which was
impossible to set exactly today but which in any event was not distant, the
German armies would in the course of this struggle reach the southern exit from
Caucasia.
3. As soon as this had
happened, the Fuhrer would on his own give the Arab world the assurance that
its hour of liberation had arrived. Germany's objective would then be solely
the destruction of the Jewish element residing in the Arab sphere under the protection
of British power. In that hour the Mufti would be the most authoritative
spokesman for the Arab world. It would then be his task to set off the Arab
operations which he had secretly prepared. When that time had come. Germany
could also he indifferent to French reaction to such a declaration.
Once Germany had forced open
the road to Iran and
Iraq through Rostov, it would he also the beginning of the end of the British
world empire. He (the Fuhrer) hoped that the coming year would make it possible
for Germany to thrust open the Caucasian gate to the Middle East. For the good
of their common cause. it would he better if the Arab proclamation were put off
for a few more months than if Germany were to create difficulties for herself
without being able thereby to help the Arabs.
He (the Fuhrer) fully
appreciated the eagerness of the Arabs for a public declaration of the sort
requested by the Grand Mufti. But he would beg him to consider that he (the
Fuhrer) himself was the Chief of State of the German Reich for five long years
during which he was unable to make to his own homeland the announcement of its
liberation. He had to wait with that until the announcement could be made on the
basis of a situation brought about by the force of arms that the Anschluss had
been carried out.
The moment that Germany's tank
divisions and air squadrons had made their appearance south of the Caucasus,
the public appeal requested by the Grand Mufti could go out to the Arab world.
The Grand Mufti replied that
it was his view that everything would come to pass just as the Fiihrer had
indicated. He was fully reassured and satisfied by the words which he had heard
from the Chief of the German State. He asked, however, whether it would not be
possible. secretly at least, to enter into an agreement with Germany of the
kind he had just outlined for the Fuhrer.
The Fuhrer replied that he had
just now given the Grand Mufti precisely that confidential declaration.
The Grand Mufti thanked him
for it and stated in conclusion that he was taking his leave from the Fuhrer in
full confidence and with reiterated thanks for the interest shown in the Arab
cause.
Source: Walter Laqueur and
Barry Rubin, ed, The Israel-Arab Reader,
(New York, NY: Penguin Books, 2001)
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